Why New Zealand's former prime minister believes proportional representation works better

British Columbia's electoral reform referendumwill be held inOctober and the result could be a switch from the current first-past-the-post system to proportional representation.

Former New Zealand prime minister Helen Clark visited Vancouver on Monday to give a talk aboutgoverning hercountry's coalition government from 1999 to 2008 a government elected through mixed-member proportional representation, one of the options in October's ballot.

She talked to Stephen Quinn host of CBC's The Early Edition, about her experiences with the voting system, which her country adopted in 1993.

You were originally an opponent of proportional representation. What were your concerns?

Well, probably the step into the unknown.

In the family of Anglo-Americandemocracy, we mostly saw first-past-the-post.

The examples were not well known to New Zealand: the Scandinavian countries and Germany, for example.

Also, I was a new, young party leader and you really didn't know what the implications for your party would be.

But people voted for it and we had to make it work. And I did make it work with nine years of a minority government, very successfully got a lot done.

The next nine years wereled by a conservative party in New Zealand and they operated perfectly adequately.

We know it works.

Yes, there were concerns beforehand, but they gave it a go and I don't think there's any appetite for changing back.

In theyears before you were elected, how well was the systemworking?

The '96 election produced a result where no major party had a majority of their own.

That was what the public quite liked because they were rather tired of the one-party "elective dictatorship" in between elections.

They felt governments got their majority and they never had to consult anybody anymore.

So, [in 1996 there was] no majority, and there was a particular party that held the balance of power.

And both my partyand the conservative partynegotiated with that party for nine weeks which led to a detailed coalition agreement that both parties strained to get away from because it didn't entirely reflect their views.

What I learned from that, and what I took into government [in 1999], was not to have a detailed agreement but to rather say: "We will work in good faith together with a lot of consultation."

And we put in consultation mechanisms that have lasted to this day.

It turned out an interesting political system with a lot more dialogue and consultation. And, I underline, the public rather liked that.

Does it take a different kind of leader to keep a coalition together?

It does not lend itself to an old-style, heavy-handed leader who just pronounces.

It doeschange the political culture to one thatrequires a lot more dialogue, a lot more give and take, a lot more transparency anda lot more consultation between the parties and with the public.

It meant you still have your major parties, but the smaller parties could get into parliament.

The people who voted for those smaller parties used to have their views excluded, now they're not.

We often hearthat under coalition governments things won't get done because there aretoo many voices at the table.

That proved not to be case with the New Zealand government. We got a lot done, we were seen as a major reforming government.

It hasn't been messy in New Zealand since the transition.

This interview aired during CBC's The Early Editionon June 25andhas been edited for clarity and length.To hear the complete interview, click on the audio below.

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