Priest used youth drop-in centre as 'giant spider web' to catch victims

New allegations of sexual assault have emerged against a Winnipeg priest and convicted sex offender, CBC News has learned.

Four men have come forward alleging Ronald Lger, 78,sexually assaulted them beginningwhen they were children aged 10 to 12, during the 1980s. All frequented the youth drop-in centre he founded, Teen Stop Jeunesse (TSJ).

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Winnipeg police confirmed Friday afternoon Lger has been charged with eight counts of sexual assault and remains in custody.

Four men allege priest Ronald Lger sexually assaulted them when they were children

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New allegations of sexual assault have emerged against a Winnipeg priest and convicted sex offender, CBC News has learned.

"When I look at it now, the place was just a giant spider web," said one of the men. CBC Newsis protecting their identities because of the nature of the allegations.

Everybody wanted to be around Ron. Unidentified alleged victim

"You put a whole collection of kids there, and then there's some he could go farther with and some that he wouldn't, right? And I think he was a smart predator," he said."He would just slowly test the boundaries, I guess."

All four men have given statements to Winnipeg police. Sources confirm Lger was arrested.Lger's lawyer, Saul Simmonds, said he was not in a position to comment.

Similar patterns

The men described similar patterns of grooming and alleged molestation by the Catholicpriest.

"He always had cigarettes for the kids, so if you needed a cigarette you'd go up and see Ron. Go into Ron's office and have a smoke and sit on his lap," said a second man.

"We wanted things in our lives," he said. "We wanted to be the kid that got to go to the cottage and go in the lake. Everybody wanted to be around Ron, right? We wanted to be with Ron and around him, because he made us feel special."

He's got victims that don't even know they were victims. Unidentified alleged victim

Three of the men told CBC News they didn't initially realize that Lger's actions toward them were inappropriate.

"I really don't remember how I felt back then," said one man. "I was not really reaching puberty yet, I wasn't sexually active And that was probably one of Ron's things that he did. He started targeting kids before they became sexually active and knew what that was."

"He would just touch you, like feel you, grab you," he said. "He'd try and just get a quick feel in there, right?"

The groping became so commonplace one of the men likened it to a handshake.

"It almost got to the point where it was like when you greet somebody, you greet somebody with a hug or a handshake youknow, and Ron would want a hug. Or you'd sit on his lap, and he'd say a couple little statements, and he went for a feel."

Shame and embarrassment

The men believe they have suffered personal and professional setbacks as a result of the alleged abuse.In some cases, they say they are only now realizing the extent of the impact it had on their lives.

"By the time I hit high school I could no longer be around people," said a third victim. "I could no longer trust other people.I could no longer participate in gym class.I couldn't go to the change room.I just couldn't do those things.

"Just the feeling of shame and overwhelming embarrassment wouldn't even let me in the door, wouldn't even let me start to disrobe, it just wouldn't let me."

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"I'm not very emotional," he continued. "And so that's been a profound impact on me and continues to have a profound impact on the way I interact with people. I just don't let people in."

The men say they decided to come forward because there are others who they believe suffered worse abuse at Lger's hands.

"For the ones that may not come forward," said one man, "I'm able to, and I don't think some of those guys are able to."

"He's got victims that don't even know they were victims," he said."I didn't admit I was a victim, forever. Didn't want to."

'They allowed it'

They also want answers and accountability from the church and the community.

"It was not just about going after him but the whole f--kingorganization for letting it happen.For turning a blind eye, as if none of these f--kingpeople knew," one man said. "They allowed it."

This isn't the first time Lger has faced these kind of charges. He pleaded guilty in July 2015 to three counts of sexual assault in a case that involved three male victims. One count of sexual interference was stayed in the case.

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Two of the men were assaulted in the 1980s, at the drop-in centre. The other was assaulted in 2002 to 2004 when Lger was his family's priest, according to two civil lawsuits filed by his victims.

Lger was sentenced to two years in prison for those assaults.

In September, his application for full parole was denied. A federal parole board determined he is an "undue risk."

Instead, the board voted to grant him day parole for six months after determining Lger had a one-in-five chance of reoffending and he scored "just over the low threshold" as a moderate risk to reoffend sexually.

Former parish head

In addition to starting the youth drop-in centre, Lger is the former head of Holy Family Parish.

Before founding TSJ, he ran an informal drop-in centre at his Des Meurons Avenue home and operated Ron's Drop-in Centre on Sterling Avenue in the 1970s. He was a high school teacher at Charleswood Collegiate and College Saint-Boniface.

Following his conviction, the Archdiocese of St. Boniface stripped Lger of his right to work in the diocese. His order, the Montreal-based Clerics of St. Viator, confirmed it has begun the process of defrocking Lger.

TheArchdiocese of St.Bonifacereleased a statement Friday afternoon after police released the formal charges,saying the organization"expresses its deep sorrow" and stands withthe victims and their families.

"Each time the heinous crime of sex abuse is reported, victims and their families are wounded again, the vast majority of faithful priests bow their heads in shameand sincere Catholics, Christians and people of good will, experience shock, sorrow, anger and righteous indignation," theArchdiocese wrotein the statement.

Richard Frechette, who speaks for the Archdiocese, said members of the church are still in a state of shock.

"If [victims]come forward and ask for help, we want to bring healing, we want to bring them to a better place if we can do that, but we are certainly saddened by this whole situation," he said.

In a statement to CBC News, Teen Stop Jeunesse said, "We acknowledge Ron Lger founded Ron's Drop-in in 1980 which became Teen Stop Jeunesse Inc. in 1983, however, he has not had any active participation in Teen Stop Jeunesse in over 22 years."

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"Teen Stop is a modern secular youth services centre where all staff are properly vetted and all requisite background checks are made, without exception. We are here for, and have the support of, the community we serve, and are proud of the work we do."

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