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Saint John mulls joining provincial pension model

Saint John council may consider joining the provincial government's recently overhauled pension plan as a way to deal with the city's $193-million pension plan deficit.

City council expected to request meeting with task force soon

Coun. Bill Farren says more cuts to the city budget may be necessary. (City of Saint John)

Saint John council may consider joining the provincial governments recently overhauled pension plan as a way to deal with the citys $193-million pension plan deficit.

"We might," said Coun. Bill Farren.

"If they have things there that will save the Saint John pension plan money on a go-forward basis, then wed be fools not to sign onto it."

The provincial legislature is expected to pass agovernment billas early as Friday to repeal the City of Saint John Pension Acta move that would give council control over the pension plan and the power to make changes to deal with its crippling deficit.

Farren said some members of council have talked about wanting to know more about the provincial government's new pension model, which Premier David Alward has said is open to all public and private pension plans.

'Maybe theres somethingthat we could cherry pick off of it, maybe we join it 100 per cent. I dont know.' Coun. Bill Farren

The revised New Brunswick pension model has already won the support of several provincial unions, as well as the opposition.

"Maybe theres somethingthat we could cherry pick off of it, maybe we join it 100 per cent. I dont know because I havent seen the plan, it hasnt been explained to me," said Farren.

He expects a motion to be brought forward as early as the next council meeting, requesting a meeting with provincial officials to discuss the redesigned plan.

More cuts likely

Farren said the newly-elected council will have to move quickly to find solutions and that could involvefurther cuts.

The city's 2012 budget was based on a proposed package of pension reforms being approved by the provincial legislature.

But a controversial change thatwould have saved an estimated $75 million may not be allowed under the provincial Pension Benefits Act, whichthe city will still have to follow, he said.

The previous council had voted to eliminatecost-of-living adjustments for employees and suspend them for retirees, but Farren does not believe that change will be approved by the provincial superintendent of pensions.

Some of the other planned changes, such as basing pensions on an employees best three years instead of their best five years, and increasing the age of retirement to 60, could be implemented relatively quickly by amending a municipal bylaw, he said.

But those changes only amount to about $30 million in savings.

"Its very frustrating," said Farren.

"I sat on the previous council under the belief we had those reforms done.

"We were told by then-mayor and then-city staff that Oh, they feel very comfortable the reforms will be [approved by the province]. And to start this task all over again is just putting the taxpayers and the workers behind the eight ball.

"I mean, you know its really putting this off and building the payment up. The payments every day are mounting and the taxpayers have to come up with that."

Mayor Mel Norton could not be reached for comment on Thursday.

Unions tight-lipped

Jamie Hachey, the president of the police union, declined to comment on any pension-related issues.

Paul Stackhouse, the president of the International Association of Firefighters, Local 771,was also reluctant to comment.

"All were trying to do is get some information right now and see what our position is in whats going on with the repeal," he said.

"Weve always been willing to sit down and resolve the pension issue and were still willing to do that," Stackhouse added.

Michael Meahan, president of the outside workers Canadian Union of Public Employees local, and Paul Johnson, president of the inside workers CUPE local, could not be reached for comment.

'Attractive' option

Premier David Alward says the new provincial model can be adapted to different public and private sector plans. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)

Susan Rowland, a member of the provincial Task Force on Protecting Pensions, which revised the provincial system in collaboration with a number of union leaders, said the new shared-risk model can apply to any pension plan in the province whether public or private.

"A municipal plan like Saint John may wish to take advantage of the many advantages offered by the shared-risk model," Rowland said.

When Alward announced the new plan, he suggested it would be an "attractive" option to both public and private sector pension plans.

'We encourage those plans not currently involved to see how they, too, might benefit from such changes.' Premier David Alward

"I would encourage all New Brunswick employees and companies to examine this model and see the advantages it offers over their existing system," Alward said.

The revised plan is meant to address the significant funding deficit issues many plans are facing and make pensions more "secure, sustainable and affordable," he said.

"One of the strengths of this model is that it can be adapted to different public and private sector plans," Alward said.

"We encourage those plans not currently involved to see how they, too, might benefit from such changes."

New provincial model

Under the new plan, benefits already in place for retirees will not decrease, but there will "likely" be "marginal" increases to employee contributions, Alward said.

Some of the other changes include:

  • The retirement age will be moved to 65 from 60 over a 40-year period.
  • Cost-of-living increases will be conditional on the pension plans performance, but when pensions are in a surplus position, cost-of-living increases could be reinstated retroactively for years where they were not provided.
  • Plans will be based on an "enhanced career average" of earnings rather than the employees final salary.
  • Investment mixes that are less volatile to market swings.

Several public unions will be adopting the model for some of their plans, including the New Brunswick Nurses Union, the New Brunswick Union, the CUPE Local 1252.

Private plan on board

The New Brunswick Pipe Trades Pension Plan, a private union, also signed onto the changes.

"I dont look at it as being the first private plan, I look at it as being something thats good for our membership, so I feel pretty good about that," said Gary Ritchie, president of the New Brunswick Building Trades and administrator of the pipe trades plan, which has about 3,000 members.

"I believe there will be a lot of plans that sign onto this, including private plans," said Ritchie.

'Theres all kinds of provisions in there that you can work with to help your situation and thats what weve done.' Gary Ritchie, New Brunswick Building Trades

"Theres all kinds of provisions in there that you can work with to help your situation and thats what weve done."

Ritchie said unlike many private plans, the pipe trades plan is fully funded on a going-concern basis.

"But when you do the wind up, because of the interest rate today, then we end up, when we do the calculation, we end up with a deficit," he said.

Under the old rules, enough money had to be set aside to cover any unfunded liability by 2018. That was causing us big problems," said Ritchie.

"We would have to put almost one-third of the money that was in our pension plan aside to do a windup and you wouldnt be able to pay benefits out of that or anything," he said, declining to discuss specific figures.

The revised provincial model offers a different way to do the wind up calculation, said Ritchie.

"So therefore it means that we dont have to put all that money aside at one time."

"Our benefits all stay the same, we have cost-of-living [increases], that all stays the same, so theres no real effect other than on this solvency issuewe got some relief there.

"We dont have to look at reducing somebodys pension, so I think that is a good thing."

Ritchie said hes not familiar with the specifics of Saint Johns pension plan, but he described the provincial model as a "pretty flexible of legislation" that could be adapted to meet individual needs.

Any public or private plans that want more information about the provinces new shared-risk modeland how it might affect their plancan contact the task force, said Dave MacLean, communications director for the Department of Justice and Attorney General.

"It could be the union leadership on behalf of their membership, or it could be the plan sponsor, whether it be a municipality or a private company," he said.

Its unclear how long such discussions might take.

The citys pension plan is currently governed by provincial law, so any changes have to be approved by the legislative assembly.

But the newly-elected city council voted to ask the legislative committee to repeal its pension act to give it more authority.