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Replace or renovate 30-year-old SaskTel Centre? Consultants to talk costs Monday

It's been almost two years since a study of the future of the suburban arena was announced. Councillors will finally hear the results Monday afternoon at city hall.

Much-anticipated study was announced nearly two years ago

Construction of SaskTel Centre finished in 1988, at a cost of $49.3 million in 2018 dollars. (Jennifer Quesnel/CBC)

Hired hands will talk publicly Monday about how much it would cost to renovate Saskatoon's aging SaskTelCentre arena or build a new venue. They'll also riff on the future ofthe even older TCU Place convention centre.

It's been a long time coming.

SaskTelCentre CEO WillLofdahlannounced a market analysis would be sought in April 2016. The reportwas expected to be ready by last Juneafter the downtown TCU Place was added to the study's focus.

Two years since Lofdahl's announcement, the results from the highly-anticipated study will finally be shared with city councillors some time after 1 p.m. CST today at city hall.

Few advance details

The study was orderedby the independent corporations that run the facilities andwas budgeted at $261,000.

Unlike reports requestedby thecity, it has not been released early, and few peopleinvolved in its creation or affected by its conclusionswanted to talk about thefindings before Monday.

Lofdahl did not return several requests for comment.

Steve Hogle, the team president of the Saskatoon Blades, said he could not comment until after Monday.

'You should come down on Monday'

Toronto-based HLT Advisory headed the trio of consultants that studied the costs of both upgrading SaskTel Centre andreplacing it with a newly-constructed venue.

The study was also meant to consider how to repurpose the current SaskTel Centreif it's found a new building is warranted.

HLT is known for having laid out the multi-billion dollar plan for Edmonton'sRogers Place indoor arena, completed in 2016.

"You should come down on Monday and find out," said HLT managing director Lyle Hall of the Saskatoon study.

The consulting firm hired to study the future of SaskTel Centre laid out the plan for Edmonton's new Rogers Place arena. (CBC)

HLT subcontracted the help of two American companies, Kansas City-based Convergence Design and Ocoee, Fla., company Conventional Wisdom.

"We're a firm that designs public assembly buildings," said David Greusel, a founding principal of Convergence Design.

"We have a pretty good working knowledge of both arenas and convention centres in term of how they function," Greusel added."So we were called in to help analyze and conceptualize how new or renovated facilities might work in Saskatoon."

Rick Schmidt, a principal at Conventional Design, said "our specialty is more on the conference and convention centre" and facility programming while"Convergence is more on the arena side."

Neither Greusel nor Schmidt would say much more.

Ex-mayor is staying out of it

Former mayor Don Atchison, who previously expressed support for a new arena located downtown, wouldn't revisit the topic when contacted on the weekend.

"I've tried to stay away from that now," he said. "The reason being is I don't want to look like an ambulance chaser and second-guessing council."

But what does the post-mayoral, private-citizen Don Atchisonthink?

"Once a mayor, always a mayor," he said.

'Very loose costs' floated

One person did offer some details.

Al Ryz, the chief operating officer and governor of the Saskatchewan Rush lacrosse team, which calls the SaskTelCentre home, said he'd seen "somewhat of a 75,000-foot presentation."

While the version of the study he saw did not weigh in on whether an upgrade or new build is recommended, it did comparethe "very loose costs" for each scenario.

The Saskatchewan Rush lacrosse team would like to see a new downtown Saskatoon arena built. (CBC)

"They don't have definite costs yet," he said. "But obviously to build, it was significantly higher than doing the reno."

Ryzsaid the team would prefer to see a new arena built. Parking and traffic flow issues marthe current arena, he said, and the team would like more space for its dressing room and coaches and for sellingRush merchandiseto fans.

"I think it would really support the local business," said Ryzof a downtown arena. "When you look at the restaurants and the hotels, they would all benefit from it."

Profitable but problems

SaskTel Centre and TCU Place both posted profits in 2017 $1.4 million and $1 million, respectively, according to preliminary financial results.

But the city and the corporations have cited issues with the buildings.

SaskTel Centre, with a current capacity for 15,000 spectators, was finished in 1988 at a cost of $26.1 million $49.3 million in 2018 dollars.

The facility is held back byseveralshortcomings, according to the corporation that runs SasktelCentre:

  • No loading dock for quickly loading shows in and out.
  • Roof and trusses too low for event rigging.
  • "Inadequate" kitchen and catering space.
  • "Limited" publicwashrooms.
  • No permanent artist dressing rooms.

The city has called it "an aging facility" that "may require increased maintenance costs and innovative solutions to remain competitive in the touring market."

A new roof is among the projects planned under the building's maintenance reserve.

Monday's study will also ponder the future of the downtown TCU Place convention hall, which is even older than SaskTel Centre.

TCU Place, built in 1967, is showing its age, too, with high maintenance costs that continue to increase, according to the city.

"Inadequate space to provide services for larger events and increased public and private-sector competition with local, national and international providers has ledto a loss of business," the city reported last November.

There has been "a decrease in the number of events hosted in our facility," echoed Matt Petrow, the TCU Place corporation's director of finance.

'Is it a need oris it a want?'

Saskatoon resident Harvey Peever wrote councillorstwo years ago to oppose the idea of a new arena complex.

He hasn't changed his mind.

Coming off the $84.6-million Remai Modern Art Museum, the city should "look carefully" at the cost of either replacing or upgrading Sasktel Centre.

"Is it a need or is it a want?" he said Saturday. "I guess I'm more concerned with things like road clearing, proper low-cost housing for the poor and working poor."

Not that SaskTel Centre is without its issues, he said, bringing up one of the same problems flagged by Ryz.

"How do you get in and out of [the parking lots] without a monumental traffic jam?"

Monday's presentation at city hall is open to the public.

Can't make it? You can watch the city's live video feed of the meeting here.