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Federal cash brings no clarity to subway debate

It appears that a $660-million contribution from the federal government wont do much to clarify the ongoing debate over how best to extend the Scarborough subway.

Ottawa, Queen's Park appear at odds over routing

Subway debate continues

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Even with $660M from the federal government, councilors can't agree

It appears that a $660-million contribution from the federal government wont do much to clarify the ongoing debate over the Scarborough subway extension.

Federal Finance Minister Jim Flaherty announced Ottawas contribution on Monday, money that will go a long way toward plugging a funding gap in the much-debated project to extend the Bloor-Danforth subway line past Kennedy Station.

Federal Finance Minister Jim Flaherty, right, made Rob Ford's day by announcing that the federal government will kick in $660 million for the Scarborough subway extension. (Frank Gunn/Canadian Press)

A map displayed at Mondays announcement showed a subway running from Kennedy Station to Sheppard Avenue East with stops at Scarborough Town Centre and Lawrence Avenue.

That routing would differ from a plan put forward by Ontario Transportation Minister Glen Murray last month, which outlined a two-stop extension terminating at Scarborough Town Centre.

With no consensus on even the broad-strokes of the plan despite countless studies, TTC CEO Andy Byford and Murray both appeared on CBC Radios Metro Morning on Tuesday.

Heres a summary of their comments:

Glen Murray

  • While he welcomes Ottawas contribution, he believes a $1.4 billion, provincially funded plan he put forward last month and running along the existing Scarborough RT right-of-way will serve more people.
  • Murray also touted his line as fully funded though its been criticized for stopping short of Sheppard Avenue East. A TTC report released Monday also claims the Murray plan doesn't account for all costs.
  • Murray admits hes fed up with the transit debate and said hes willing to look at changes to the alignment.

Andy Byford

  • TTCs CEO is also happy to see the feds write a cheque but admits the Scarborough subway debate hasnt exactly been a model for efficient transit planning, which he said is too often driven by particular local agendas.

  • This longer quote from Metro Morning spells out Byford's concerns about how transit planning is done in Toronto: "In order for us to successfully develop a network that will serve Toronto well ... you've got to have a system whereby people aren't calling for particular projects based upon their tenure as a politician. You've got to have visionaries in this city who are doing the right thing regardless of what the personal consequences might be. We've got to get to an apolitical, common-sense, consensus-based planning process."

  • Byford, whose resume includes the London Underground, said Toronto is the most complex place that I've ever worked in terms of transit planning, the fact that you have three levels of government. Transit planning does seem to be driven by particular local agendas.

  • Like Murray, Byford points out that expanding the subway system outward only worsens the already intense crowding during rush hours. This expedites the need for the downtown relief line, said Byford.

The next chapter of the Scarborough subway saga will happen in October when the city council revisits the discussion, which has now shifted in light of Ottawa's contribution.