Chrtien says government should have moved more quickly on release of two Michaels

Former prime minister Jean Chrtiensays the government should have moved earlier to resolve the issue of the detainment of Michael Kovrig and Michael Spavor.

"We lost three years. That is a problem, they stayed in jail for three years. So, I thought at the beginning that they should have moved earlier,"Chrtiensaid in an interview airing onRosemary Barton Liveon Sunday.

The former Liberal prime minister, who led Canada from 1993 to 2003, told CBC chief political correspondent Rosemary Barton he'd always had a "special relationship" with China. He noted that he had been called by contacts in China about the issueand spoken publicly about it before.

Chrtiensaid during his tenure, he was able to balancea working relationship with China, especially on economic issues, while being "very candid" on human rights.

"They don't always agree with you, and most of the time we have to say, 'We agree to disagree,'" he said.

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Former prime minister Jean Chrtien spoke to CBC chief political correspondent Rosemary Barton about his years in government, Canada's relationship with China and his personal style of politics.

Former prime minister Brian Mulroney suggested in mid-2019 thatChrtienbe sent to China to help resolve the crisissparked by the arrest of Huawei executive Meng Wanzhouin Canada in late 2018. Former diplomat Michael Kovrig and businessman Michael Spavor were arrested in China a few hours later.

Chrtiensaid at the time he was willing to go, and was reportedin June 2019 to have floated the idea of Trudeauintervening to cancelMeng'scase his former chief of staff Eddie Goldenberglater made the case plainly The Globe and Mail, calling for "a prisoner exchange."

In abook being released Tuesday,My Stories, My Times, Vol. 2, Chrtiendiscusses how he came to that ideaand his own contention that the Meng case was always a political problem, not a legal one.

'Now they have become a power'

Chrtien acknowledged that China had changed since his time leading Canada and that played a role in the government's behaviour.

"It's a different time today, I have to recognize that," he said.

"We had disagreements, but now they have become a power, and they're playing as a power. I'm not surprised."

Chrtiensaid it should always be expected that other countries would act in their own self-interest and that needed to be considered when determining strategy.

"For us, you have to roll with the punches and take the avenues that are beneficial for your country, and slow down when the obstacle is too big," he said.

During his interview with Barton,Chrtienalso said Trudeau would have been "better served" in several cases if he and his government reached out to old-guard Liberals for advice, though noting he wasn't passing judgment on them.

On China, he said, "Everyone does it his own way. I had my own way and I survived with it."

You can watch full episodes of Rosemary Barton Live onCBC Gem, the CBC's streaming service.