Fact check: Is the federal government profiting off student loan interest?

Is the federal government profitingoff interest on federal student loans?

New Democratic Party Leader Jagmeet Singh says as much. At acampaign stop in Sudbury, Ont., on Aug. 28, Singh proposed a number of measures that he believes will make post-secondary education more affordable including eliminating the payment of interest on all federal student loans.

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In a tweet posted later that day, Singh implied thatthe federal government had been making money off of such interest.

"Since coming to power, Trudeau has profited off of student debt, to the tune of nearly $4 billion in interest payments," the tweet reads, referring to Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau."I would immediately remove interest from the federal student loans."

Neither Employment and Social DevelopmentCanadanor the National Student Loans Service Centre(NSLSC)responded to a request for comment in time for publication.

According to the NSLSC's website, a federal student loan can have a fixed or floating interest rate. In the case of a floating interest rate, debtors will be charged the prime rate, which is currently 2.45 per cent. In the case of a fixed rate, the interest is the prime rate plus two per cent.

The federal government has suspended the accumulation of interest on Canada student loans until March 31, 2023.

But is Singh's claimtrue, false or somewhere in between? CBC News asked an expert for a fact check.

Revenue not the same as profit

Christine Neill, an associate professor of economics at Wilfrid Laurier University in Waterloo, Ont., says the claim is falsethough the finance of student loans, a subject she's researched extensively,can get quitecomplicated.

"No, I think it's not really correct as phrased," she said of Singh's tweet.

The government obviously generates revenue off of interest on student loans, she says, but revenue is not the same thing asprofit.

"Profit tends to imply that the revenue that you're raising is greater than the cost," she said.

The issue with Singh's claim is that Ottawa is actually losing money on federal student loans and grants, even as interest on the loans producessome revenue, Neill said.

The government hasgenerated billions of dollars in revenue on federal student loan interest since 2015, Neill says, but Singh may be slightly overestimating how much it's likely around $3.7 billion.

While that may sound like a big number, the federal government still isn't making any "profit." Why? Because the student loans programcomes with a price tag for the government, too.

Breaking down the costs

First of all, federal student loans do not accumulate interest while a student is studying and for the first six months after graduation. The result is that the government is actuallysubsidizing students' education during that period anddefinitely not making money.

"So the government is borrowing moneyand effectively having to pay some interest on that, and the students will never have to pay that bit back.So that's a subsidy to students there," Neill said.

There's also student repayment programs that assiststudents who are struggling with low incomes after leaving school, which is another blow to government coffers. The income threshold and qualification for this assistance dependon a number of factors.

And, Neill says, there are interest and debt-relief programs for specific professions,such as doctors and nurses.

According to Neill's analysis, in 2018-19, all of these programs offering relief from debt and interest payments cost the government $686 million, compared withinterest revenues of $852 million.

Neill calls these "interest subsidy costs."

"So only there, with those interest subsidy costprograms, the expenses almost outweigh the revenues being raised," she said.

But that's not all.There's also the cost of bad-debt expenses, meaning loans that debtors cannot or will not pay. Those cost the government approximately$300 million in 2018-19.

On top of thatthere's the base cost of running the program, which includes paying staff to administer it.Thatcame with a $137 million price tag in 2018-19.

Government loses money on program

Neill says whenyou put it all together, not only is the government failing to make a profit it's failing tobreak even. In other words, it's losing money.

If you measure revenue and expenses with this criteriafrom 2015 to 2021 with the caveat that fully audited numbers are not yet available for the last two fiscal years she estimates the government lost about$1.8 billion.

That's far from $4 billion in profit.

"That doesn't count the cost of the Canada student grants program, which is another $1.5 billion a year at the moment," Neillsaid.

The NSLSCstill recommends that student make lump-sum payments to their loans even when interest is not being charged during their studies or the six months after graduation.

"Making payments while you are in study or in the non-repayment period [six months after you graduate]is a great way to save on interest in the long run," itswebsite says."It will reduce the principal of your student loan, which will also reduce the total interest you would have to pay later."

Fact check: False.