Former GG Michalle Jean says it's 'irresponsible' to deny systemic racism exists in Canada

Former governor general Michalle Jean says it's "irresponsible"for Quebec Premier Franois Legault to suggest that systemic racism doesn't exist in his province.

In an interview with CBC's Power & Politics today, Jean said racism against Black and Indigenous people is deeply embedded in some of the country's institutions, and to ignore that fact is an exercise in denial.

Legault announced an anti-racism task force on Monday toroot out discrimination against racial and ethnic minorities in Quebec. He continues to insist, however,that systemic racism does not exist in Quebec.

"My definition of systemic racism is that there's a system in Quebec of racism, and I don't think there's a system,"he said Monday.

"We were all touched by what happened in the United States. We don't want to import the climate of confrontation," Legault said, referring to the wave ofprotests that erupted in response tothe killing of George Floyd in police custody.

Jean said she doesn't want this moment of popular support forracial justice to focus on defining a term like "systemic racism." She said it's obvious, however,that some sectors of Quebecand Canadiansociety are dominated by white people and people of colour are often missing from the corridors of power.

"We come from a long legacy of hatred that we need to acknowledge, a legacy of hatred that came from the time of colonial conquest, based on white supremacy, domination, total dehumanization,"Jean said.

'Racism is still raging on'

"The legacy is still there racism is still raging on.

"But the denial becomes part of the problem. How can you address something when you don't acknowledge the situation? ... I find it very irresponsible."

Asked if Legault's hand-picked anti-racism panel which does not include an Indigenous member can do its work adequatelyif there is no acknowledgement of systemic racism, Jean said "denial" of systemic racism "is not helping."

"It has to be named," she said."It has to be identified."

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Denying systemic racism is 'not helping', says former GG Michalle Jean

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Former governor general Michalle Jean says it's "irresponsible" for Quebec Premier Franois Legault to suggest that systemic racism doesn't exist in the province.

Jean, a Haitian refugee who was raised in Quebec, said she has experienced racism throughout her life, most notably when she was applying for jobs at Radio-Canada, the French-language service of theCBC.

She said one of her job interviews, in the late 1980s, was focused solely on her race, and thathiring managers repeatedly askedher if she would be able to "integrate" into an all-white newsroom.

Jean said that when one of those managers asked her if she knew she would be "the first Black person in the newsroom," she replied,"You know what? I think we're going to stop that conversation right here. I think there's a problem and I'm not the problem. The problem is on your side."

Asked about RCMP Commissioner Brenda Lucki'spublicstruggle with the definition of "systemic racism," Jean said again thatthe focus shouldn't be on a single phrase.

She said the force has to address unconscious bias among police officers that sometimes results in excessive use of force against Black and Indigenous people because of a perception that people from these communities are somehow more "dangerous."

"It demands a constant vigilance. We need to remain constantly vigilant. This is how you ensure you have more social cohesion," she said.

'We've had enough of this'

Jean said watching the death of Floyd, a Black man, while inpolicecustodywas painful a reflection ofapolice culture that has for too long ignored calls for fundamental reform.

"We've had enough of this,"Jean said. "We want transformational actions to be taken. We want transformational leadership."

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and Justice Minister David Lametti have promised to tackle anti-Black institutional racism. "We will continue working towardsa fairer justice system," Lametti said in a statement to the press. "It is simply unacceptable that some Canadians experience justice differently just because of the colour of their skin."

Beyond policing, Jean said racial disparities are evident in other sectors of society.

She noted that Black communities in Montreal have been hitparticularly hard by the COVID-19 pandemic. Jean has personally lost fourfamily members, including an aunt who was in a long-term care home.

Jean's comments about addressing systemic racism in Canada camethe same day the parliamentary Black caucus issued a letterasking all levels of government to address lingering inequities.

The caucus, which includes MPs and senators from different parties, released a list of suggested changes.

Those measures include improving the collection of race-based data (which the group identified as a priority) and reforming both the police and the justice system to eliminate bias and discrimination against Black Canadians and Indigenous people.

The caucus said mandatory minimum sentences for some crimes should be eliminated entirely. Advocates have suggested that this policy sends a disproportionate number of minority Canadiansto prison.

The group also wants governments to take action to better support businesses owned and operated by Black Canadians, more Black representation in the public service and greater investments in Black culture and arts.